QT Chicago Dogs: The Closest To Chi-Town We've Found

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QT CHICAGO DOGS
4344 Woodman Av, Sherman Oaks
818.368.0111
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PARTICULARS:
Vienna Beef Standard Hot Dog, Mild Polish,
Fire Dog, Natural Casing Dog, Italian Sausage,
Corn Dog, Veggie and Turkey Dogs for Sissies,
Onions, Tomato, Yellow Pepper, Electric Green
Relish, Celery Salt, Side Pickles, Shredded
Cheese, Fries, Onion Rings, Chili, Roast Beef,
Pastrami and a variety of other Sandwiches,
Gyro, Fish n' Chips, Chicken Breast Strips,
Italian Sausage Sandwich, Burgers, Veggie
Burgers, Chicken Nuggets, Buffalo Chicken
Fingers (whatever the hell that is!)
Health Department Rating: A
DISTINCTIONS:
Authentic Chicago Dogs with Natural Casings

We read in the Los Angeles Chowhound Message Board that the best place to find an "authentic" Chicago Dog was QT Chicago Dogs, with stands in Sherman Oaks, Reseda and Northridge. The Sherman Oaks branch was just a hop, skip and a jump away, but even though we knew the neighborhood like the backs of our hands, we couldn't picture in our mind where the heck the QT stand was. So we ventured out with an address in our sweaty little mitts to track it down. We were surprised to discover that QT was in the same mini-mall as our favorite Middle Eastern restaurant, Carnival. (The best tabouli in town!) The reason we had never noticed it was because the place didn't look at all like a hot dog stand. The Short Stop Market must have been having problems doing enough business to pay the rent. They divided the market in half, added a door on the sidewalk, and leased half the space out to QT.

Walking into the Sherman Oaks QT Chicago Dogs is a bit disorienting. There's no wall between the market next door and the hot dog stand, and the flourescent lights above are as bright as high noon in the Mojave desert. A huge eating area full of tables stands just a little way away from the checkout lines of the market. As you munch on your doggie dinner you can watch the local drunks stop by for a sixer or a shorty of gin to tide them over till the daylight breaks. The walls were festooned with Chicago travel posters and the exact same Vienna Beef posters we saw at Taste Chicago. Based on our experience at that particular doggery, the posters didn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence... But there was one homemade sign on the wall that made our hearts skip a beat... "Natural Casing Dogs- $1 extra"

Yes Sir! This place had the goods! We brushed right past the Gyros, Pastrami and Buffalo Chicken Finger Sandwiches (What's a buffalo chicken, and why does it have fingers?!) and went straight for the dogs. QT has a variety of dogs... the Standard Dog and Mild Maxwell Street Polish are the same as the uninspiring ones at Taste Chicago, so we gave those a pass. Jon the Food Slob ordered a Fire Dog (split and grilled with onions) and an Italian Sausage with grilled onions and green peppers. Steve Doggie-Dogg went dog-crazy with two Natural Casing Dogs Chicago Style (Brown Mustard, Onions, Electric Green Relish, Tomato, Celery Salt, Side Pickle and Hot Yellow Pepper on a Sesame Seed Bun), a Chili Cheese Natural Casing Dog and his regular... a Natural Casing Dog with Brown Mustard, Onions, Cheese and Tomato. We decided to split an order of fries.
As we sat and waited for the dogs (and for our eyes to adjust to the blinding glare of the flourescent lighting) we asked the fellas behind the counter a few questions. They claimed that all of their dogs were Vienna Beef, even the pork ones. (We tend to doubt that...) Steve asked how many people specify the natural casings... "Very few" was the answer. Well, these two particular dog lovers certainly appreciate a good snappy skin, even if the average Sherman Oakian doesn't! In three shakes of a doggy's tail we had our meal...

The dogmeat was very good. John the Food Slob's quarter pound Fire Dog wasn't hot at all, but it was beautifully spiced with the kind of garlicy goodness that seeps through your pores for days after eating it. It had no snap, but split and grilled it was a mouthwatering treat nonetheless. The Italian Sausage was a real surprise. It had no skin, and the texture of the meat was the same as Breakfast Sausage. But this was a lot better than your average Farmer's Patty... It was infused with delicious Italian spices and herbs. The Grilled Onions and Green Peppers that bedecked it were the perfect complement. Steve's Chicago Dogs were excellent, with a snappy skin and pretty good spices. They even squirted nicely when you bit into them. The relish was the same shamrock green as at Rubin's Red Hot, but it wasn't piled on quite as thick, so the sweetness wasn't too overpowering. The tomatoes were pretty blah compared to the beautiful red, meaty, juicy ones at Carney's, but the onions were nice and fresh. The side pickle was fine, but the yellow hot pepper (the same kind you get at Tommy's Burgers) couldn't hold a candle to a real Chicago sport pepper, like the ones at Taste Chicago. The fries were pretty good... very similar to the ones at In-N-Out... clean and potatoey, not too overcooked. The only real disappointment of the evening was the chili, though. It was a horrible, fluffy nasty tasting mess. We won't make the mistake of ordering it again. The cheese was pretty bland and tasteless too. It's obvious that it's best to avoid non-Chicago condiments like kraut, chili and cheese. And for God's sake... NO KETCHUP!

Well, we gobbled down the grub and went back for another Italian Sausage. Even though we had no Chicago native with us to authenticate the dogs, we felt confident in awarding QT the prize for best Chicago Dog, edging out Rubin's Red Hot and Taste Chicago. Jon the Food Slob and Steve Doggie-Dogg both felt that QT Chicago Dogs deserved a solid Three And A Half Dog rating, putting it halfway between Papoo's Hot Dog Show and The Stand.
When Chicago Mike found out that we were about to give a good review to a Chicago Dog stand, he expressed his doubts. "In Chicago, you'd have to extend your Dog Rating Scale to SEVEN or EIGHT dogs! A Thee And A Half Dog Chicago Dog?! Pshaw! You're going to have to convince me." L.J. Dawgg concurred. "I want to try this QT place... It CAN'T be as good as home!" Well folks, it sounds like we'll be heading back to QT soon with some skeptical Chicagoans in tow. We'll post an update.
UPDATE: June 27th, 2004
Vic Swarthydogg and his ol' pal Cigarettes the Pup read our review of QT and demanded to be formally introduced to the QT bill of fare. So Steve Doggie-Dogg and Jon the Food Slob took the boys down for a follow-up. Even though we had to step over a drunken bum at the door who looked just like Fred Flintstone on the skids, and the flourescent glare was just as blinding as before, both Vic and Cigs were impressed with QT Chicago Dogs. They concurred with the accuracy of our previous dog rating, and pointed out that the Chicago Natural Casing Dog is top notch.
Over on the Los Angeles Chowhound Message Board it was revealed that there is indeed a natural casing Vienna Beef dog, and it can be ordered in bulk by mail. The Fire Dog is also available the same way. So it appears that all Vienna Beef is not created equal... The Standard Vienna Beef dog and Mild Polish is what we sampled at Taste Chicago and found to be uninspiring. The best Vienna Beef dogs are the Natural Casing Dog and the Fire Dog, which we've only found at QT so far.
More info when we can wrangle Chicago Mike and L.J. into giving QT a taste...
STRIKE ONE: July 22nd, 2004
Last night, Jon the Food Slob, Steve Doggie-Dogg, L.J. Dawgg and Vic Swarthydogg went down to QT's to discuss the upcoming DOGOFF with the lads from Hot Dog Tour. THEY RAN OUT OF NATURAL CASING DOGS. Yes, you heard us right. They only had three natural casing dogs in the whole joint. Now, that's inexcusable... but we'll let it pass if it's a one time thing. If you plan to sample QT, you might want to phone ahead to make sure you don't make the trip down there for nothing.
STRIKE TWO: August 5th, 2004
Yesterday, Chicago Mike and Steve Doggie-Dogg visited QT's again... and AGAIN they had run out of natural casing dogs. They apologized profusely, but it's still totally unacceptable. They get one more chance. If they don't have the natural casing dogs next time we drop in, we will be forced to drop their Dog Rating a full pooch.



8 Comments:
At 1:57 AM, Anonymous said…
Sigh...I've come to the conclusion that having the passion for hot dogs doesn't mean one necessarily has the taste...
On the recommendation of this site, I checked out Chicago Dogs. What a load of c**p. Steamed/boiled brown, blech - but that was only the first regular dog. So to give it a fair shot, for my second dog I ordered one with natural casing. And to be even more open to the experience, I specifically asked the counterman to chargrill the dog. He refused, saying it would still take the same amount of time! It turned out to be an even browner/greyer boiled mediocrity that was also cut in half (not split down the middle, but actually cut in two).
As I said in an earlier post, Costco may not be hot dog Nirvana, but it sure as hell beats Chicago Dogs. If I'm gonna end up with a boiled/steamed dog, I'd rather get one that's a buck and a half with a soda, instead of one at more than twice the price, without the drink. And at least the Herbrew National Costco dog looks red. So the question isn't how could you rate this higher than Costco, but how could you rate it higher than Weinerchnitzel's beef dogs?
I noticed you guys like a lot of crap on your dogs. Perhaps it's time to be a bit more "scientific". If you're going to honestly rate a dog, at least rate them with AND without all the garbage. How can you tell how good a dog is if it's taste and texture are masked by a wild assortment of additional flavors?
At 1:37 PM, Steve DoggieDogg said…
For true charbroiled dogs, we've only found one place that does it... Papoo's Hot Dog Show in Burbank. But unfortunately, they don't have natural casings there. I agree that the Standard (non natural casing) dog at QT Chicago Dog is pretty blah. It's the exact same dogmeat we were unenthusiastic about at Taste Chicago. But the natural casing dogs at QT are quite good. A natural casing dog shouldn't be split and grilled. For maximum snap, it should be steamed. That's the only way you're going to get the snap and squirt. If you're a dog purist and don't like a lot of stuff on your dog, you should avoid Chicago dogs... piles of toppings is what a Chi-Dog is all about. You would probably like the Carney's Standard Dog or The Wiener Factory's Mild Polish a lot better. Those both stand up to just a bun and mustard well.
See ya
Steve
At 6:06 AM, Anonymous said…
Sorry for my rant, Steve. Perhaps it's an east coast thing, but I really prefer my dogs grilled (either flat or char). It's not that I don't appreciate (or crave) one of the ubiquitous hot dog wagons in midtown Manhattan, but I guess I just grew up on too many Nathan's and Gray's Papaya dogs... Maybe that's why I don't "get" Pink's - it's certainly ok, but not really any better than the hundreds of hot dog carts one finds in NYC.
As for Carney's and Wiener Factory - again, a boiled/steamed dog I wouldn't go out of my way for. Perhaps this is why I keep touting the virtues of Weinerschnitzel's beef dog - a good grilled dog that's closer to what I prefer. (It doesn't hurt that it's a better value and more convenient than the 2 Nathan's in L.A.).
As for chargrilled dogs in L.A., Johnnie's Pastrami in Culver City does (or did when I last checked a few years ago), a very credible chargrilled dog. I think the Pastrami dip is pretty good, but it's gotten a bit pricier over the years. The cost of being hip I guess.
At 5:16 PM, Steve DoggieDogg said…
Carney's will grill a dog if you ask them. I usually get my Red Hot split and grilled there... We'll give Johnnie's a try... thanks for the tip!
See ya
Steve
At 5:57 PM, Anonymous said…
Hey Steve, it was a shame about the natural casings. Thanks for allowing me to have the last one! The hotdog isnt bad, its OK. Doesnt remind of Chicago and the toppings are decent. I love the posters of Chicago and of course Da Coach--Ditka! I dont know if i'll be back-i signed the black Chicagoians book. But its worth a look!--L.J. Dogg
At 6:59 PM, Anonymous said…
Well again, you guys know nothing of a Chgo dog!!!
Again, there is NO casing on a chicago dog!!!
Brown Mustard??? What, were you wishing it was a bratwurst??!!
Sarge
CPD
At 2:24 PM, Anonymous said…
I was at QT's today and they got dogs with casings -- first time user based on your recs.
At 11:46 AM, Anonymous said…
Having lived in LA for five years after being a lifetime Chicagoan, I can honestly say the only way to get a good Chicago dog here is to head for LAX, get on a plane, land at O'Hare and drive to Superdawg.
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